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Noticed Prescott there after the game obviously taking notes for next week.

Still pretty gutted after that performance yesterday, particularly on such a special day for the club. Not surprisingly O'Donohue was reported for his actions yesterday and I think he will get a few weeks. Murdoch still got 22 possessions which would probably be down on his normal input but O'Donohues actions cost Swans dearly in other ways and I couldn't understand why he persisted with these tactics after the first couple of free kicks.
Jeb is a decent player but plays his best footy when he is aggressive towards the ball rather than the man. 
We had the top 4 possession getters on the ground yesterday but still couldn't get the job done. 
 

I agree with the comment of one EF supporter who said the top 6 in the Swans team are as good as anybody in the competition. The problem is that the bottom six in the team are not up to it and that is where they are being found wanting, not just this year but previously. Nathan Blakely is a whole hearted player who tries his guts out every game but the WAFL competition has passed him by and the fact that he is the first choice ruckman is a bit of an indictment on the big man stocks at the club or indicates a reluctance by the coach to try a younger bloke

Once more Swans find themselves looking down the barrel at an early exit from finals contention, next Saturday going to a ground where they haven't won at for over a decade staring at a potential 1 - 4 record.

mikeh wrote:

Still pretty gutted after that performance yesterday, particularly on such a special day for the club. Not surprisingly O'Donohue was reported for his actions yesterday and I think he will get a few weeks. Murdoch still got 22 possessions which would probably be down on his normal input but O'Donohues actions cost Swans dearly in other ways and I couldn't understand why he persisted with these tactics after the first couple of free kicks.
Jeb is a decent player but plays his best footy when he is aggressive towards the ball rather than the man. 
We had the top 4 possession getters on the ground yesterday but still couldn't get the job done. 
 

I agree with the comment of one EF supporter who said the top 6 in the Swans team are as good as anybody in the competition. The problem is that the bottom six in the team are not up to it and that is where they are being found wanting, not just this year but previously. Nathan Blakely is a whole hearted player who tries his guts out every game but the WAFL competition has passed him by and the fact that he is the first choice ruckman is a bit of an indictment on the big man stocks at the club or indicates a reluctance by the coach to try a younger bloke

Once more Swans find themselves looking down the barrel at an early exit from finals contention, next Saturday going to a ground where they haven't won at for over a decade staring at a potential 1 - 4 record.

You have pointed out Blakely, but who are the other five in the side that are found wanting? Is this statement based on one game? While I do not agree with the comment - or that in reality all teams have a few that will be below average - I will agree that coaching has been underwhelming for too long. 

It just seems to me that there are 4 or 5 players who consistently carry the burden of the teams performance on a week by week basis. Turner, Chalcraft, Clarke and Rokahr being the main ones. Others do chip in and the defence in general works as a unit. It seems to me that once fatigue sets in at the latter stages of games, the team loses its way, like it has for the last 3 weeks.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh in my assessment because guys like Chipper, Reidy, Cartwright and Tester seem to be the fall guys at the selection table when the team has a bad loss and when your place is not secure you are not inclined to take risks.

I would be interested to know whether these guys have been given any idea about their roles in the team or direction by the coaching staff. I think they are all talented players but I reckon they are not playing to their potential.
What I saw on Sunday was a combination of poor game awareness and management under pressure which led to poor decision making and skill execution. Surely they would have practiced the scenario they faced in the dying seconds on Sunday during pre season and a hurried kick out of a pack of players would not have been plan A

That last paragraph of yours mikeh is a nail on the head read....not only for SD, but other teams in the comp as well. EF did well to overcome the deficit, and that was due to poor decision making and skill execution by SD. Sadly evident with that hurried kick by Jeb.....surely 9 /10 the fella would of banged it to the boundary....even if it went out on the full, the resultant shot for goal would of been 10 times harder in regards to angle etc then what McDonald would of had.

Success Hill wrote:

mikeh wrote:

Still pretty gutted after that performance yesterday, particularly on such a special day for the club. Not surprisingly O'Donohue was reported for his actions yesterday and I think he will get a few weeks. Murdoch still got 22 possessions which would probably be down on his normal input but O'Donohues actions cost Swans dearly in other ways and I couldn't understand why he persisted with these tactics after the first couple of free kicks.
Jeb is a decent player but plays his best footy when he is aggressive towards the ball rather than the man. 
We had the top 4 possession getters on the ground yesterday but still couldn't get the job done. 
 

I agree with the comment of one EF supporter who said the top 6 in the Swans team are as good as anybody in the competition. The problem is that the bottom six in the team are not up to it and that is where they are being found wanting, not just this year but previously. Nathan Blakely is a whole hearted player who tries his guts out every game but the WAFL competition has passed him by and the fact that he is the first choice ruckman is a bit of an indictment on the big man stocks at the club or indicates a reluctance by the coach to try a younger bloke

Once more Swans find themselves looking down the barrel at an early exit from finals contention, next Saturday going to a ground where they haven't won at for over a decade staring at a potential 1 - 4 record.

You have pointed out Blakely, but who are the other five in the side that are found wanting? Is this statement based on one game? While I do not agree with the comment - or that in reality all teams have a few that will be below average - I will agree that coaching has been underwhelming for too long. 

I must be missing something in regard to Blakely. I thought he was good for you guys on Saturday and he does a lot of good things every time I see him.

Mike I dont know how many times we have to repeat ourselves on here in regards to some of the points you have listed.
I must have posted nearly the same thing for the last 12 years or so and it continues to happen.
It doesnt matter who is coaching SD the same mistakes happen week in week out and nothing ever gets done about it.
We all might as well just copy and paste the continual game costing mistakes in here each week and save time on the long winded write ups!
It looks like Danger has joined the long list of Swans poster who have given up or just plain had enough of the footy clubs ineptness!

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Mike I dont know how many times we have to repeat ourselves on here in regards to some of the points you have listed.
I must have posted nearly the same thing for the last 12 years or so and it continues to happen.
It doesnt matter who is coaching SD the same mistakes happen week in week out and nothing ever gets done about it.
We all might as well just copy and paste the continual game costing mistakes in here each week and save time on the long winded write ups!
It looks like Danger has joined the long list of Swans poster who have given up or just plain had enough of the footy clubs ineptness!

Its more galling when the club management keep talking about putting the team in a position where they can continually challenge for the premiership. In reality we are no closer to challenging for the flag now then we were in 2021. In this time East Perth and East Fremantle who were in a similar position to us in 2021 have got their act together and EF has won a flag and the Royals are well and truly in the hunt this year. Perth are also showing signs of progress this year under a coach with a good track record. It is so frustrating because I think the team is better than what it is showing on the field. These close losses are not bad luck because as you said the same mistakes are being made every week

Whinnen wrote:

Success Hill wrote:

mikeh wrote:

Still pretty gutted after that performance yesterday, particularly on such a special day for the club. Not surprisingly O'Donohue was reported for his actions yesterday and I think he will get a few weeks. Murdoch still got 22 possessions which would probably be down on his normal input but O'Donohues actions cost Swans dearly in other ways and I couldn't understand why he persisted with these tactics after the first couple of free kicks.
Jeb is a decent player but plays his best footy when he is aggressive towards the ball rather than the man. 
We had the top 4 possession getters on the ground yesterday but still couldn't get the job done. 
 

I agree with the comment of one EF supporter who said the top 6 in the Swans team are as good as anybody in the competition. The problem is that the bottom six in the team are not up to it and that is where they are being found wanting, not just this year but previously. Nathan Blakely is a whole hearted player who tries his guts out every game but the WAFL competition has passed him by and the fact that he is the first choice ruckman is a bit of an indictment on the big man stocks at the club or indicates a reluctance by the coach to try a younger bloke

Once more Swans find themselves looking down the barrel at an early exit from finals contention, next Saturday going to a ground where they haven't won at for over a decade staring at a potential 1 - 4 record.

You have pointed out Blakely, but who are the other five in the side that are found wanting? Is this statement based on one game? While I do not agree with the comment - or that in reality all teams have a few that will be below average - I will agree that coaching has been underwhelming for too long. 

I must be missing something in regard to Blakely. I thought he was good for you guys on Saturday and he does a lot of good things every time I see him.

Nathan has been a great servant of the SDFC and I agree his effort will never be questioned. However, he struggles against the better ruckmen in the competition and he is expected to do a lot during games.  Glass -McCasker provides some support but he is more of a key position player than a traditional ruckman.  Ireland's injury hasn't helped.
Blakely is now 32 and I think it is a legitimate question to ask whether Swans long term interests would be better served by blooding a younger ruckman.

11 points up - maybe 2 mins to go. Swans go forward and a mark is taken by EF on our back 50...
A SD player comes in and pushes the EF player over - not much in it but still a 50 for stupidity...
Does anyone know who it was?
it was undisciplined, not required, gave them a sniff and whoever it was should be dropped permanantly - you simply cant trust some players.